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Inside The Producer's Studio (Part 2): On sampling

Posted by nicolaymusic on May 5, 2009 at 2:34 PM | Comments

In the prologue and the first part of this series, Nicolay opened up his studio to the public for a virtual overview of the tools that he likes to use. For the next several parts, he will zoom in to the actual music making process, from the initial idea to the fully arranged and mixed production.
So far, we have had over 4,000 unique visitors logging on to our 'Inside The Producer's Studio' series, and I would like to sincerely thank everyone for their attention and for their kind words of appreciation and encouragement. I'm thrilled that so many of you have shown interest in our blogs. Please do continue to help spread the word!


Record shopping in Shibuya, Tokyo November '06 | Uploaded by Nicolay Music.

On sampling

Because I am a musician first and foremost, I have never had to rely on sampling alone. Still, there's no question that technique involving sampling makes up an important part of my music production process. Earlier on in my career, a new idea would usually present itself in the form of a sample that I would find by randomly going through my records, in search of that next "Oh shit!" moment. Even though I love to go record shopping like any fan of music, I am not much of a "digger" because my collection is fairly small, especially after moving from one continent to another. I have personally never seen the point of owning thousands of records, knowing that I would never be able to listen to or study most of them in my lifetime, and so I only buy and hold on to records that are significant to me for one reason or another. As a result, I have a personal connection with each record that I own, and those are the records that I turn to for inspiration.

What makes a "good" sample is hard to define and, as everything involving 'taste', incredibly subjective, as what appeals to me may not appeal to you, and vice versa. If you ask me, a beatmaker's choice of samples should say something about their personality and their background. There can be a lot of fun and fulfillment in "flipping" a well-known or recognizable sample in a totally new and unique way, but I think that any beatmaker ideally wants to be the "first" to stumble upon and use a good sample. However, as the internet by now brings virtually anything that's ever been released within the grasp of virtually anyone, that is easier said than done.


Record shopping in Shibuya, Tokyo November '06 | Uploaded by Nicolay Music.

There are no rules

And do not believe anyone that tells you otherwise. In art, rules are meant to be broken, or at the very least not taken too seriously. There is, however, such a thing as "sampling etiquette". I'm far from an authority on the field, but if you are a genuine fan and student of music, and you have some common sense, chances are that you are well on your way. If you'd ask me what I think is the essence of sampling etiquette, I'd say that it boils down to knowing, understanding and respecting your source material. If you use a sample by a certain artist, KNOW that artist. Know the significance of that specific track, or the album that it's included on, as it compares to the rest of that artist's work, or the work of similar artists in the same genre. Know who produced the track, who mixed it and who played on it. Know when and where it was recorded and what equipment was used. On the sleeve of a vinyl record or in the booklet that comes with a CD you can easily find most of that information, and research online can fill in the blanks. MP3's however are still being delivered without any real background information, leaving you much more in the dark.

I'm not a follower of the ideology that one should only sample from vinyl; it just depends on the sound that you are after. In general, vinyl records are louder, more bass heavy and "warm", and they deteriorate over time, resulting in by-noises such as pops and crackles that are well-loved by the majority of beatmakers, including yours truly. But I have always been just as comfortable sampling from CD's and in some instances even from cassette tape. I know of beatmakers that use MP3's as source material, which, to some, is worse than cursing inside of a church. Because of the lower sound quality of a lot of MP3 files, especially poorly encoded ones, I have personally never wanted to use them as a sample source, but outside of that I don't have an issue with someone chosing otherwise. Coming back to "sample etiquette" though, what I DO see as an issue is that with the rise of file-sharing, the "hunt" for that good sample no longer really is a "hunt". Knowledge, understanding and respect no longer mean the same if you downloaded the track that you are about to sample together with literally thousands of others, sorted by genre and/or year and ready to be loaded up. Our generation is at risk of losing touch with a wealth of musical knowledge and experience, and I believe that it is our responsibility as artists, musicians, producers, beatmakers and DJs to try and fill that void.


The rare vinyl release of 'City Lights Vol. 1.5' at Jazzy Sport, Shibuya, Tokyo | Uploaded by Nicolay Music.

Sampling technique

Back to music production. Once I have decided what I am going to sample, I record it into the computer. Samples from a vinyl source go from my Numark DJ mixer into computer via the Digidesign 003, and samples from a CD source I usually "rip" directly using my wave-editor, which is SoundForge. SoundForge allows me to make extremely precise cuts, and before I load the sample up in my sequencer, I normally will "prepare" it by cutting it up into several smaller pieces. If the sample includes a drum or other rhythm track, it should be fairly easy to cut it up into separate bars or even smaller units of 4th or 8th notes. It is a bit of a tedious process, but doing this will pay significant dividend later on in the programming process, as you have more control over the timing of the sample as well as over the order of all of the different smaller pieces.

Looping vs. chopping

The word "looping" already says it all: You take a really great sounding piece of music, preferably the most climactic moment of a song, and you loop it. A lot of classic hip-hop productions are based on loops of some sort, whether it's a full sample or a drum-loop. You can use a loop "as is", you can pitch it down or up, or you can EQ, filter or otherwise process it, but there's a limit to what you can do. More importantly, depending on the notariety of the sample, a "loop" can be easy to recognize. To prevent that, you can also "chop" the loop up into smaller pieces, as mentioned above, and re-order those pieces so that they form a completely new melody or phrase. There have been and continue to be many fantastic sample choppers around, but the O.G. has got to be DJ Premier, whose discography will provide hour upon hour of study material. The best example of his genius in my opinion is his beat for 'You Know My Steez' by Gangstarr. Search for the original sample, and you'll know exactly what I mean. If there is such a thing as a "textbook chop", this is the one!


Record shopping in Shibuya, Tokyo November '06 | Uploaded by Nicolay Music.

Filtering and other forms of variation

Once I have the sample chopped up and re-ordered in a way that I like, I start looking for ways to add some variation. Most hip-hop beats are fairly repetitive, which I believe is part of the attraction of hip-hop, but I always like to break out of that repetition by making sure that the various parts of the arrangement are different enough from each other. To do so, you could either go back to the original track that you sampled and look for additional material to use, or you can manipulate the sample itself to alter its sound. One of the most used ways to make a clear distinction between the chorus and the verse of a song, for instance, is to put a "filter" on the sample during the verses. This will generally be a low pass filter that removes all of the high frequencies over a certain frequency, leaving only the mids and lows. Most low pass filters also have a resonance control, allowing you to add an EQ boost around the frequency the filter is set to. Filtering a sample this way makes it sound darker, as though it was wrapped up in a blanket, and when you remove the filter in the hook and bring the high frequencies back in, the sample opens up as it were. Some examples of sample filtering from my own discography: 'Let's Move', 'The Answer' by The Foreign Exchange (from 'Connected'), 'There's No Guarantee', 'We Can Fly' (from 'City Lights Volume 1.5').

There are many other ways to "process" a sample and make it sound different. You can apply modulation effects, such as a chorus, flanger or phaser, to the sample. Good results can also come from applying more "extreme" effects, such as a wah-wah or a vocoder. (For 'All That You Are' by The Foreign Exchange I used a vocoder on the sample in the verses). A trick that works especially well with older records, is to separate the two channels of the stereo file. The difference between the left and right channels is usually more pronounced in older records, and when you separate the two using a wave-editor, you can for instance use the left channel panned to center only during the verses, and the right channel panned to center only during the hooks. If you have never tried it, give it a shot... it can lead to very interesting results.


A good find in Shibuya, Tokyo November '06 | Uploaded by Nicolay Music
Big shout-out to our good friend, Mr. Ronnie Laws. I hope the fishing in Hampton was to your liking!
(And don't worry, of course I did end up picking up this copy of 'Every Generation'.)

Sample clearance

During the last two years or so I have moved away from sampling almost completely, a decision that I made for practical reasons more than anything, as I don't have any moral obligations to sampling whatsoever. For an indie artist or producer however, it is virtually impossible to exploit music productions in the publishing and licensing (the use of music for mediums such as TV, movies and games) realm if they contain uncleared samples. And even if you DO end up getting them cleared, there'll be a significant price to pay in the form of either an upfront sum of money or in the form of royalty points that you miss out on. Sure, you can painstakingly recreate the sample (an "interpolation"), as I have done on occasion. But not every beatmaker has the skills to pull that off convincingly. Either way, using a sample can complicate things in ways that using 100% original material never would.

I feel like I have only touched upon the subject of sampling, but I still hope that you'll take something away from this installment. As always, your questions are more than welcome. Nowadays, when I sit down hoping for inspiration to strike, a new idea will present itself in the form of a chord progression on the keys, a guitar-lick or a drum rhythm. Much more on that in future parts of his series. In the next part, I am going to talk about drum sounds, programming and processing, including an up-and-close look into my sequencer of choice, Modplug. But before that, I will be breaking down the production and mix of 'Raw Life' by The Foreign Exchange, upon popular request. You don't want to miss that one, so stay tuned!

Until then, thank you for listening,

Nicolay

  • Dope

    Thanks Nicolay, you gave me some great ideas with this.



    I was always wondering what you did during the verses on All That You Are. (1 of my favorite beats of all time)

    It didnt sound like a straight Low-Pass Filter to me.

    I guess you got 2 mono-channels (left & right) playin on top of each other right?

    both with different effects?

    Thats what im gonna do from now on.



    Ive heard the sample being used 2 more times now, they can not get close, your bassline was too great

  • Bruce Papuni

    Awesome article man. That left and right channel splitting from old records tip is Genius. Cheers bro.

  • Khan Soulo

    I tend to use filters on a lot of my samples these days, never though of using a vocoder. Im also going to try the left and right channel panning technique. Thanks Nic

  • Khan Soulo

    I tend to use filters on alot of my samples these days, never thought about only using it for a verses or chorus. Im also gonna try the left and right channel oanning as well. Thanx Nic

  • snipersoundz

    Sup Nicolay,



    Man I have been a fan of your work for a while now. I just found your blog today though. After reading a few of your entries so far, I'm even more inspired. I pretty much just got into making my own music. I share the same ideas about sampling as you pretty much. However, I'm learning that I can figure out enuf on my keyboard freestyle to deter me from sampling. Funny though, I just sampled BJ's "Feel Like Making Love" on a track two days ago. So, my choices are "classics". Anyways, keep giving us up-n-comers, more inspiration. It goes a long way on our quest for music creativity and enlightnment.



    Peace... Netm8kr aka (Snipersoundz)

  • theteeth

    Brilliant post!

  • @Dirty Kics No doubt. I just finished listening to you joints....VERY VERY nice.

    Keep up the good work. Dont sell your soul to the RADIO type production and "Dirty Kics tell em" (lol).



    @ nicolay_music I agree 100% about the service. Learning is only a piece of the pie. If you learn yourself, you can add your own twist to anything!



    Peace



    ambush

  • thanks for chekin man, i hooked up with the MC on my page thru OKAYPLAYER. much in the same way phonte and nicolay happen. we're aiming, just like any other non conformist, to rise above commercial works and do the natural thing.



    i got on you page as well and got into the first cut, do u have anything with like scratch tapes or whatnot?



    @ nicolay



    have you ever wanted to do an ablum composed of entire samples? just to give out or are those moments reserved for your listening qtrs...



    i know you dig for inspiration but you HAVE to have some initial beats that took on a life yet remained a "beat"... peace

  • You can try a service like ReplayHeaven, where they'll re-create or "interpolate" the sample for you (if you don't have the skills to pull the interpolation off yourself).



    www.CalmYoSelf.com

    Latest post: Fire alarm jam session!

  • nicolay_music

    Not that I would want to look down on anything, but using a service like that would seem like taking the easy way out to me. There wouldnt be any challenge in that for me personally. But obviously everyone is free to do whatever they feel is right.

  • no beef here, jus liked how you explained it the 2nd time more than the first. i dont do beef threads i just feel the same way and feel cheated the same way you do. i was just cn hope deep that comment was. respect



    its about growth @ the end of the day cuz i started out doin str8 beats now im teaching myself to play melodies and more by ear. so far its been great but im to shy to put it out yet, lol

  • S.2

    Wow. Splitting the left and right channels for the verses and hooks is a real sick and original idea! Very clever Nico. I might have to give that a try.



    It depends on what your sampling but one thing I do from time to time is to have one version of the sample at its normal pitch, and then a copy (or copies) of it pitched up or down one octave. You can play them together (to make it sound fuller), or you can split them up between the verses and hooks.

  • DJ Ambush

    @dirty kics



    Im not on here to start threads but you took it the wrong way.

    I make beatz at home too but what i was trying to say these FLY-BY night "producers" that dont know NOTES and i guess you can say the theory of music.

    Just bang on some keys, Pro-Tool it and Vocoder and BOOM!

    To me I feel it is not fair for people like Nic, myself or maybe even you if you are musically inclined. Not just BEAT inclined. You see what I am saying?



    An augmented 7th chord on top of lower octave blah blah blah...you know what Im saying?



    Not trying to take shots at anyone who is an up and coming PRODUCER but for those who say one morning they wake up "i wanna make beats that sound like blah blah" and never touched keys or anything like that should stop and say "hey, I would like to take a music class or piano lessons.



    Please people dont hate me for having an opinion and dirty kics if I made you mad, im sorry.



    --Ambush

  • OBAKENG MENYATSOE

    AS ALWAYS NICK...THIS INSTALMENT HAS BEEN GREAT...IM HAPPY SOMEONE ELSE BESIDES MYSELF FEELS THAT WE AS THE MODERN GENERATION TEND TO FORGET THE PAST MUSICAL GREATS WORK....PERSONALLY MY OBSESSION WITH SOUL BLUES N OTHER PIONEERING GENRES IS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT BY LISTENING TO VINTAGE SOUNDS ONE CAN FIND THEMSELVES AN IDENTITY WITHIN MUSIC...BY BIGGIN UP OLD SCHOOL ARTISTS WE BECOME AWARE OF THE DEPTH OF MUSICAL GENIUS THAT IS AT OUR REACH..KEEP ON KEEPIN MY BROTHER .ONE LOVE

  • I've been a fan since the first album. I'm also a music producer, but I play the drums and keys. I love sampling, but I also love to re-create something I've heard and see if I can do a better job than the original. People say that I have a very different style. I think it's because I don't try and follow what others' do. I tend to get into my own head and create my own sounds. Anyway. Keep up the good work, Nic. You're one of my favorites.



    http://www.myspace.com/thaarchitect

  • dope read and great respect for the art man. i use sample primarily and have had so many ppl tell me to go the route of mp3s but u lose out on soooo much but doin that. its just a file versus a life to learn about.



    i read an article where the rza spoke on working somethin out where everyone from you to the ablum u sampled and the session players could get paid off it. which would be great cuz most of these dudes is broke and it would create a fixed rate for sampling.

    it was much more than that but in a way that makes more sense than ppl just suing for samples.



    @ dj ambush



    would you consider someone who does all orignal music a beat maker cuz they did it @ home? both those terms have meanings in pairs. i rep beatmakers and have never called myself a producer but it bothers me when ppl say what u said cuz becomeing a producer is suppose to be the next step for anyone. so if someone has done some producing b4 but not alot should they still be considered beatmakers?

  • Gilles

    Great article.



    While being at samples: Could it be that the *Intro* Keyboards from City Lights is adopted from Pretty Maids "Love Games" Intro?

  • nicolay_music

    Do you mean the vibes at the very beginning of the album?

  • Gilles

    I meant the very beginning of track 2 called "Intro" (at least on my release :). I just thought those keyboards feel a bit like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7P9B24BmT4 (I know, its a cheesy 80ies rock tune :). And I just thought after reading that great article, it would have been a good example or "proof of concept" according to the usage of samples. Bringing something completely different into a new context.

  • nicolay_music

    Gotcha. Nope, that's not what I used, but I do hear the similarities.

  • AMAZING!

    I will never forget the first time I spoke with you like 9 years ago. You were the ONLY other person besides myself who ever heard of MOD PLUG or Scream Tracker!!!



    And to this day you are still a beast at it.



    Many congrats to you and Phonte. You have created an amazing sound that is hard to replicate. VERY VERY hard.



    Many props to the production you provided to my brother Preach. The both of you have some great chemistry together that cannot be explained on paper. Just listen.



    These are great installments that needs to be read by any producer or inspiring producer and not just a BEAT MAKER. There is an art to this and not just going to your local music store to buy the newest synth and try to make a million dollars. It burns me up when BEAT makers categorize themselves and producers.



    Again, many congrats and PLEASE keep up the good work. One day maybe you and I can make a beat tape together. that would be something if I were only lucky.



    Peace



    --DJ Ambush

  • Good stuff Nicolay. I've been a live musician (rock, hiphop, metal, gogo) all my life, but recently, I've decided to try my hand at beat-making. There's some good stuff in here that I'll definitely keep in mind. Whether people think it's great or wack, it will come from the heart regardless.



    thanks!



    ~B

  • sab

    really interesting. can you link to a track featuring one of your own melodies or licks? something you played yourself? i like the idea of sampling/chopping waveforms you lay down yourself but when listening to other artists' beats i can never tell.

  • nicolay_music

    Some examples of tracks I did that dont contain any samples and that are all 100% "mine": "Daykeeper", "House of Cards" and "Sweeter Than You" from Leave It All Behind, "I've Seen Rivers", "As The Wheel Turns", "Tight Eyes" from Time:Line

  • Jason

    Great read Nic

    although you do use samples sparingly, my fave example of yours definitely 'Light It Up'



    oh and it would be sweeet to get hands on city lights vinyl haha

  • E.o

    Awesome insight into your creative process.I've always loved to read on how my fav artists go about making music. it's really inspiring and i thank you for letting us in to your world. BTW, Modplug was my first sequencer! I love how you can get in to detail with editing arrangements. I could never figure out how to get it to "quantize" though so i kinda left it alone after a couple of years. It's great for hip hop production as you can load your samples and move em around the grid with ease.This is how first learned about chopping (lol! i thought i was the only one who chopped, as if i created the technique!) lmao ignorance is bliss i guess cuz i loved it."

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